W204 Power up

[Guest 9339]

Any bro had did anything to their W204 or know what can be done to power up the engine. Or maybe some basic "must do" or add on to be done on my W204. Thanks in Advance

[Guest CBlack]

I've the following :

1. Kleemann header + sport cat

2. Kleemann Kbox + pully kit (need modification to fuel system)

3. Vathe intercooler

4. Brabus exhaust system

many bros with the M271 engine have done item 1 to 3. exhaust most go with AMG.

[Guest 9339]

How much will it cost without the exhaust?

[Guest angela]

Hi fellas,

forgive me for my total ignorance. I am never the sort to do anything to my car other than change the car mats.. but after looking at all the pics and reading about all the power and "shiokness" after mod, I may just be a convert.

However, with all these mods, wouldn't the warranty be void? Can someone advise how to do stuff to the car without making the warranty void?

And, question to those who have done up their W204 or those are "old bird" to Merc Mods; Is there a front bumper lower lip that you can add (just a minor touch) to the avant garde to make it look a little bit fiercer? I saw this in the brochure but don't think it's available at C&C.

[Guest CBlack]

How much will it cost without the exhaust?

Kleemann header + sport cat S$3k ++

Kleemann Kbox + pully kit + K&N Filter (forgot to mention earlier) S$3k ++

Vathe intercooler $2k ++

Not sure about the exact price now cos I bought them few years back when I have my W203 so just transferred to my W204. You can check with MBM.

[Guest 9339]

Thanks Cblack, will be visiting MBM this few day cos mine car got a funny sound when i start it in the morning but the sound will gone in about 20 seconds, and i think we have another W204 bro need poison from you.

[Guest CBlack]

Hi fellas,

forgive me for my total ignorance. I am never the sort to do anything to my car other than change the car mats.. but after looking at all the pics and reading about all the power and "shiokness" after mod, I may just be a convert.

However, with all these mods, wouldn't the warranty be void? Can someone advise how to do stuff to the car without making the warranty void?

And, question to those who have done up their W204 or those are "old bird" to Merc Mods; Is there a front bumper lower lip that you can add (just a minor touch) to the avant garde to make it look a little bit fiercer? I saw this in the brochure but don't think it's available at C&C.

warranty part is a risk you have to take. as long no major problem then no issue. if you do only cosmetic mods then it won't void warranty.

the add on to the front and rear bumper you can get them from MBM. it is on display at their office cum showroom.

[Guest CBlack]

Thanks Cblack, will be visiting MBM this few day cos mine car got a funny sound when i start it in the morning but the sound will gone in about 20 seconds, and i think we have another W204 bro need poison from you.

i think it's because the engine is cold. my car is very loud in the morning.

[keltanky]

CBlack ]

i think it' wrote:

loud[/size] in the morning.

hmmm its loud meh?? only loud if you chase those iritating cars cutting in those jams every morning we kena along the roads

right

[Guest 9339]

Ya is loud , seem like some oil level are low, anyway will be paying them a visit to check on the $$ of those poison you had given me

[Guest 9339]

keltanky ]

i think it' wrote:

loud[/size] in the morning.

hmmm its loud meh?? only loud if you chase those iritating cars cutting in those jams every morning we kena along the roads

right

I usually will give way to those who signal, trying not to spoilt day.. ;D

[Guest CBlack]

keltanky ]

i think it' wrote:

loud[/size] in the morning.

hmmm its loud meh?? only loud if you chase those iritating cars cutting in those jams every morning we kena along the roads

right

no lah, what i meant was when i start the engine. the initial few seconds, it's loud but once the engine warms up, the sound is gone (unless i rev it).

[keltanky]

no lah, what i meant was when i start the engine. the initial few seconds, it's loud but once the engine warms up, the sound is gone (unless i rev it).

its our type of engine, its a cold start procedure..., once car warms up the rev will drop to normal.. so sound gone liao, yup unless u rev it it will go down..

[Guest m1122]

Very normal for loud scratchy sound at start-up especially if car is not used for a few days.

[Guest icebox]

I've the following :

1. Kleemann header + sport cat

2. Kleemann Kbox + pully kit (need modification to fuel system)

3. Vathe intercooler

4. Brabus exhaust system

many bros with the M271 engine have done item 1 to 3. exhaust most go with AMG.

Bro CBlack, I'm new here and just got my C180 2 weeks ago, already felt underpowered and would like to up the power a little. I'm realistic and not looking for massive power increase, but more on torque increase with more usable power for daily commuting. Since you're already using these mod on your W204 now, can you advise me a real life experience and feeling after installing each of these mod. Which do you think I should go first based on my requirement?

[Guest lsk005]

icebox ]

I' wrote:

Bro CBlack, I'm new here and just got my C180 2 weeks ago, already felt underpowered and would like to up the power a little. I'm realistic and not looking for massive power increase, but more on torque increase with more usable power for daily commuting. Since you're already using these mod on your W204 now, can you advise me a real life experience and feeling after installing each of these mod. Which do you think I should go first based on my requirement?

Bro, y didn't u get the C200 in the 1st place?

[Guest CBlack]

Bro CBlack, I'm new here and just got my C180 2 weeks ago, already felt underpowered and would like to up the power a little. I'm realistic and not looking for massive power increase, but more on torque increase with more usable power for daily commuting. Since you're already using these mod on your W204 now, can you advise me a real life experience and feeling after installing each of these mod. Which do you think I should go first based on my requirement?

with the mods the performance is definitely much better than stock. you can consider the Kleemann Kbox + pulley kit first. this should give you some decent increase in power. that's what i did for my W203 and then slowly got poison and kept adding more mods

[Guest phicho]

Thanks Cblack, will be visiting MBM this few day cos mine car got a funny sound when i start it in the morning but the sound will gone in about 20 seconds, and i think we have another W204 bro need poison from you.

i think it's because the engine is cold. my car is very loud in the morning.

yes when engine is cold, the car is very loud. once warm up...its back to power!

[Guest phicho]

CBlack ]

Bro CBlack, I' wrote:

with the mods the performance is definitely much better than stock. you can consider the Kleemann Kbox + pulley kit first. this should give you some decent increase in power. that's what i did for my W203 and then slowly got poison and kept adding more mods

C180 is alittle uppowered, in view of the heavy body. the C200 is already feeling the drag.

would a drop in air filter work first to give more breath to the engine?

i am still troubled by the road noise esp along AYE near NUH stretch....

also switching drive to "S" will smoothen bit and add more response.

[Guest m1122]

I have now had my C180 for 3 weeks. Yeah there is a flatspot in the powerband when cruising at 50kph and when you accelerate from this speed the response is very sluggish. The range of the flatspot is between 50-65 kph but for me, just step harder on accelerator and problem solved. Overall performance for me quite ok since I seldom drive above 80 kph - me somewhat ah pek kind of driver so those who want to have cut and thrust type of performance, think minimum is C230.

[Guest icebox]

CBlack ]

Bro CBlack, I' wrote:

with the mods the performance is definitely much better than stock. you can consider the Kleemann Kbox + pulley kit first. this should give you some decent increase in power. that's what i did for my W203 and then slowly got poison and kept adding more mods

Thanks for advice. What sort of power increase you had when you did the Kleemann Kbox + Pulley kit? The power increase was more for low end or high or across all rpm? Is that power increase obviously felt or just very subtle?

Also wondering besides having lower Compression ratio for C200 over C180 (in stock form), is stock C200 running a higher boost with slightly bigger crank pulley to get that extra power? Can C180 replicate the C200 easily to get that extra juice. Anyone have any advice?

[Guest CBlack]

Thanks for advice. What sort of power increase you had when you did the Kleemann Kbox + Pulley kit? The power increase was more for low end or high or across all rpm? Is that power increase obviously felt or just very subtle?

Also wondering besides having lower Compression ratio for C200 over C180 (in stock form), is stock C200 running a higher boost with slightly bigger crank pulley to get that extra power? Can C180 replicate the C200 easily to get that extra juice. Anyone have any advice?

in my w203 C180 when i only have the kbox + pulley kit, i can only feel the power in the mid range 2-3k rpm. not sure about the other question though. i think uncle batam can help ???

[Guest icebox]

Thanks for advice. What sort of power increase you had when you did the Kleemann Kbox + Pulley kit? The power increase was more for low end or high or across all rpm? Is that power increase obviously felt or just very subtle?

Also wondering besides having lower Compression ratio for C200 over C180 (in stock form), is stock C200 running a higher boost with slightly bigger crank pulley to get that extra power? Can C180 replicate the C200 easily to get that extra juice. Anyone have any advice?

in my w203 C180 when i only have the kbox + pulley kit, i can only feel the power in the mid range 2-3k rpm. not sure about the other question though. i think uncle batam can help ???

Bro, in your current W204, did you ever measure (via boost gauge) what's the max boost after installing the k-box and pulley kit as compared to in stock form? I believe the stock boost should be coming in 0.4 - 0.5 bar as this is the normal low-pressure force induction boost from factory?

Did you still keep your stock W204 crank pulley and can you share what's the O.D. of the stock Pulley? Also the O.D. of Kleemann pulley if you know?

[Guest CBlack]

Bro, in your current W204, did you ever measure (via boost gauge) what's the max boost after installing the k-box and pulley kit as compared to in stock form? I believe the stock boost should be coming in 0.4 - 0.5 bar as this is the normal low-pressure force induction boost from factory?

Did you still keep your stock W204 crank pulley and can you share what's the O.D. of the stock Pulley? Also the O.D. of Kleemann pulley if you know?

the measurement from the boost gauge shows 1 bar. i still keep all stock parts as i will put them back when i sell the car. sorry, i don't know what is "O.D.".

[Guest icebox]

CBlack ]

Bro, in your current W204, did you ever measure (via boost gauge) what' wrote:

the measurement from the boost gauge shows 1 bar. i still keep all stock parts as i will put them back when i sell the car. sorry, i don't know what is "O.D.".

Sorry! I mean Overall Diameter of the pulley. 1 bar is quite high, should be almost double the stock boost, I can imagine the performance must be quite intoxicating compared to stock.

Is there a significant increase in the engine noise or sound generated by supercharger when you're driving or in the cabin? I'm quite worry the increase in noise may be too intrusive. How do you find it? is it acceptable.

How long have you installed these mod and any reliability issue so far?