About JBL MS-8

[Guest rx8king]

Dear brothers,

Newbie here! I bought an e200k, near 2008 FL model comes with factory Audio 20 with CD changer. I read threads of MS 8 from this forum and tempted to go for it. I have the following questions, hopefully some brothers can enlighten me:

1) I am not sure whether my system fitted with factory amp hiding some where, if this the case, am I right to say that I can just add the MS 8 without additional amp to improve the sound staging?

2) If the existing speakers are driven by the integrated amp from Audio 20, then, I also have to add amps?

Kam Siah!

[Guest kepiting1sg]

Dear brothers,

Newbie here! I bought an e200k, near 2008 FL model comes with factory Audio 20 with CD changer. I read threads of MS 8 from this forum and tempted to go for it. I have the following questions, hopefully some brothers can enlighten me:

1) I am not sure whether my system fitted with factory amp hiding some where, if this the case, am I right to say that I can just add the MS 8 without additional amp to improve the sound staging?

2) If the existing speakers are driven by the integrated amp from Audio 20, then, I also have to add amps?

Kam Siah!

The MS-8 is both a processor & amp. It has also has pre-outs if u wanna upgrade with new amps & speakers/subwoofers.

It should have enough channels to drive your factory speakers.

For more info:

http://ms8-eu.jbl.com/

[Guest rx8king]

Thank you!

[Guest ricric_lo]

This is the factory amps if you have ordered "Harman Kardon Sound System SA810". Thus, the whole retrofit involves a lot of parts, wiriing and changes of 14 speakers.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/comandexpert/sets/72157629230345701/with/6841133441/

Cheers

[Roger Yeo]

Hi Bro

 

Can I know how much it cost you to get the HK SA810 and who did the installed ?

Appreciate.

[Mickey35]

I am also a newbie. Does MS-8 allow tuning with optimum listening position for all 4 seating postions front and rear seats, or is it same as conventional tuning with only driver seat optimise with best sweet spot?

 

Any good installer to recommend with good tuning skill?

[Ody_2004]

Just the driver or front passenger.

MS8 just an option to enhance the stock system.

I done mine by Ah Boon at autospitz

[MarkCWQ]

Hi Bro

 

Can I know how much it cost you to get the HK SA810 and who did the installed ?

Appreciate.

Harman Kardon system would cost an arm and a leg to retrofit. It's way cheaper and much easier (less invasive to the car) for it to be factory fitted.

[Mickey35]

Just the driver or front passenger.

MS8 just an option to enhance the stock system.

I done mine by Ah Boon at autospitz

I see. Thanks for your reply.

[kepiting1sg]

Retrofitting HK cause many arms and legs and you also need to run the wiring looms over your internal ceiling.

Not done properly, the ceiling cloth may sag and the running wiring loom and extra speakers involve lots of labor and time.

 

HK system -

 

http://mercedes.harmankardon.com/en/vehicles/c-class/technical.aspx

[Tykl]

Just the driver or front passenger.

MS8 just an option to enhance the stock system.

I done mine by Ah Boon at autospitz

Hi Ody, mind sharing the damage? does installation req any drilling of holes, stock cables/wires being cut etc?

Thanks for sharing..

[Ody_2004]

Ms 8 is 1100, speaker 600

No drilling, splicing of stock cables.

Very neat job by Ah Boon

[Tykl]

Speaker $600? So u actually changed speaker as well is it?

[Ody_2004]

Front speaker only

[Tykl]

Okay. Mind sharing ah boon's contact pls? Thanks Ody.

[Tykl]

PM received thanks Ody!!!

[Mickey35]

Front speaker only

 

Mind to share which brand of speakers? Does it fit nicely to the original speaker holes without modifying or cutting? I believe you are running active right? I am searching for a good pair of front speakers.

Does the MS8 affect the car performance? My experience from my previous car that it does affect slightly with my amp and subwoofer installed. When I dekit to sell my car, I can feel a slight gain in power back.

[Ody_2004]

German maestro speaker. No need drill but need a adaptor as the speaker is slightly bigger than stock. This speaker is not say good just decent. Good speaker need the other part of system to be upgraded too which i did not.

MS8 will not affect performance as it is light and consume low ampere since it is not really a power amp. Your previous experience could be due to weight.. you be surprise a hi end set can weigh alot.. esp with customised enclosure. It may also suck the juice out of the alternator so ampere to other car unit get reduce which might affect performance.

[Mickey35]

Thanks for your reply. German maestro was in my mind too. I will do more research.

[bobven]

This is my setup. I had discussions with many audio Sifu's around the world...on many forums...This is for a Comand NTG on a C class

 

May be of use for audio enthusiasts

[Desember16]

Hi Ody,

 

Would you be able to PM me the contact of Ah Boon at autospitz?  I'm very interested in the MS-8 too.  Many thanks.

[Desember16]

Hey many thanks Ody for Ah Boon's contact.

 

Another question if I may.  I'm just purchased (but still waiting for) an A200 with the standard Audio 20 and have read that the sound is not great.  Thinking very much of installing the MS-8 but also tempted to upgrade the speakers.  I can't however seem to find any details about how many or what kind of speakers are in the car and since I don't have the car yet I can't physically check.  My questions are:

 

- How many speakers are in the car?  6?  Components in front door?

- How big should the replacement speakers be?

- Does it come with an amp or is it powered by the headunit.

- Does it come with a subwoofer or center speaker?

 

If anyone does know and would share, it will be so so great.  Thanks.

[Ody_2004]

Sound is selective.. some think stock is good enuff..

 

I had moved from $20k system to just MS-8 with a changed front pair.. 

 

My advise is no matter what people said just listen to stock first.. if really not up to your expectation then change it.. And believe me.. there's no end to it.. 

 

Met a audio nut recently.. his four Amps itself is over $20k.. speakers at over $10k easily.. his setup can buy half COE liao..

 

btw good speaker without decent amp is a waste.. match this and that all cost $$

[Desember16]

My SE confirmed that the Audio 20 in the A Class comes with 6 speakers.  It has no amp, no subwoofer and no center speaker.  My best guess would be a set of components in the front door and a set of coaxials in the rear.  Think I could try the stock with the ms-8 first just to see and upgrade the speakers if need be.  Thanks.

[kepiting1sg]

My SE confirmed that the Audio 20 in the A Class comes with 6 speakers.  It has no amp, no subwoofer and no center speaker.  My best guess would be a set of components in the front door and a set of coaxials in the rear.  Think I could try the stock with the ms-8 first just to see and upgrade the speakers if need be.  Thanks.

IMHO,

Changing the front stock speakers more likely to cost you less than MS-8