Group Buy - AMG BBK

[Guest rssid]

W204 front AMG brakes are 6 pot, rear AMG brakes are 4 pot total quoted for the grp buy is $5000 (Dunno if included gst and installation or not). The AMG brakes are actually by brembo i think if i'm not wrong and according to the pm comes with all rotors calipers pads and brackets required to hook it up to the car. Damn good deal if its really by brembo cuz the package by brembo would normally run approx 9K for a complete set.

[Guest Cerano]

no gst bro.

however, note that these are OEM. they are not the top end Brembo GT series. as such you cannot compare the 9k floating point

[Guest Benzline Auto]

Cerano wrote:

what other parts are needed?

how much do these extra parts cost?

for the W204....i think only need to add in the front bracket,unless the workshop know how to modify it.

i let u knw the bracket cost tmr

[Guest Benzline Auto]

GSF wrote:

Hi Bro, can you quote for 2005 200CLK W209 and separate quote to front and rear?

Also, do you have AMG bodykit for this car? If yes, can you quote original and replica?

What is the material?

Thanks.

i dun have stock for W209 model now.

and also we dont sell replica AMG kit.

[Guest Benzline Auto]

vin78 wrote:

Hi Bro, can let us know the brakes front for W204 how many pot and rear how many pot? I think so that most of us can have a clearer picture.

Thanks.

front 6 and rear is 4 pot

[Guest Benzline Auto]

rssid wrote:

W204 front AMG brakes are 6 pot, rear AMG brakes are 4 pot total quoted for the grp buy is $5000 (Dunno if included gst and installation or not). The AMG brakes are actually by brembo i think if i'm not wrong and according to the pm comes with all rotors calipers pads and brackets required to hook it up to the car. Damn good deal if its really by brembo cuz the package by brembo would normally run approx 9K for a complete set.

yes....most AMG calipers are make by brembo.

some bro here did get the W203 AMG kit before....they shd know :becky:

all prices quoted in this GB does not include installation.

u still need to add the gst as well.

for installation charges...u may wanna call auto spiritze at 94754255,look for dennis

[Guest rssid]

So the price is WITH installation (whoops already answered)? And srsly why have people started quoted prices without gst again seem to remember that life would be simpler if we get a FULL quote.

[Guest Benzline Auto]

Cerano wrote:

no gst bro.

however, note that these are OEM. they are not the top end Brembo GT series. as such you cannot compare the 9k floating point

how do you define OEM parts for benz?

i also kinda find it funny on this OEM parts for benz also :shocked:

let have some discussion on this :becky:

we all know hella make headlamps for mercedes.

so can we say that hella is OEM parts then?

for example....W211 bi xenon headlamps....original part number fm benz is 211 820 XXXX and hella is 1LL XXXX

can we say that for such case.....hella headlamps is no way compare to the ori headlamps then.....and customer will anytime choose over ori headlamp than the hella made? :shocked:

also,i do rec a call fm a member here today....asking for all this part numbers for the AMG brake kit.....saying that his workshop wanna know it just to make sure that he get the correct parts to install it on his car? :shocked:

hhmmmm.....which workshop will do this in singapore?

mind telling me which workshop :bounce:

[Guest Benzline Auto]

rssid wrote:

So the price is WITH installation (whoops already answered)? And srsly why have people started quoted prices without gst again seem to remember that life would be simpler if we get a FULL quote.

ok...sorry bro.

my bad....next time i make sure i will quote the full price with gst then :shocked:

[Guest GSF]

Bro, what about AMG bodykit original? That was in my original message as well.

[Guest Cerano]

Benzline Auto wrote:

how do you define OEM parts for benz?

i also kinda find it funny on this OEM parts for benz also :shocked:

let have some discussion on this :becky:

we all know hella make headlamps for mercedes.

so can we say that hella is OEM parts then?

for example....W211 bi xenon headlamps....original part number fm benz is 211 820 XXXX and hella is 1LL XXXX

can we say that for such case.....hella headlamps is no way compare to the ori headlamps then.....and customer will anytime choose over ori headlamp than the hella made? :shocked:

also,i do rec a call fm a member here today....asking for all this part numbers for the AMG brake kit.....saying that his workshop wanna know it just to make sure that he get the correct parts to install it on his car? :shocked:

hhmmmm.....which workshop will do this in singapore?

mind telling me which workshop :bounce:

here is where i got my info bro

http://www.mbworld.org/forums/s55-amg-s65-amg-s63-amg-w220-w221/295620-brembo-gt-brakes-vs-s55-brakes.html

http://www.mymbonline.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=32667

so according to the member it differs in weight and feel? but i dunno la i only know its repackaged brembo like you said. im only an end user bro. but then again i think all of us would be happy with either. :bounce:

certain hella is oem wad. i bought the c63 lights from your shop wad. i benzline supporter ok! kekeke :becky: i guess it hangs in the definition of OEM.

maybe bro you can enlighten us on the difference in price between Brembo and AMG since AMGs are repackaged brembos? We are all very curious bro

Sorry if i asked for the part nos la but the WS seriously asked for them :becky:

As for the WS i called, they asked me for the list of parts and no. that i would be installing. contact is below

Hup Tee Motor Workshop

6483 2591

but they not specialist in mb la so i wouldnt trust their experience entirely :becky:

cheers

[Guest Benzline Auto]

GSF wrote:

Bro, what about AMG bodykit original? That was in my original message as well.

bro....i dun have the stock now leh....sorry :becky:

i have send the price quotation,haven in yet :bounce:

[Guest Benzline Auto]

Cerano wrote:

here is where i got my info bro

http://www.mbworld.org/forums/s55-amg-s65-amg-s63-amg-w220-w221/295620-brembo-gt-brakes-vs-s55-brakes.html

http://www.mymbonline.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=32667

so according to the member it differs in weight and feel? but i dunno la i only know its repackaged brembo like you said. im only an end user bro. but then again i think all of us would be happy with either. :bounce:

certain hella is oem wad. i bought the c63 lights from your shop wad. i benzline supporter ok! kekeke :becky: i guess it hangs in the definition of OEM.

maybe bro you can enlighten us on the difference in price between Brembo and AMG since AMGs are repackaged brembos? We are all very curious bro

Sorry if i asked for the part nos la but the WS seriously asked for them :becky:

As for the WS i called, they asked me for the list of parts and no. that i would be installing. contact is below

Hup Tee Motor Workshop

6483 2591

but they not specialist in mb la so i wouldnt trust their experience entirely :becky:

cheers

bro

i not sure the difference for the BBK between brembo n AMG leh.

so far we only bring in AMG BBK n not brembo for benz.

since you mention that the workshop is not spec in benz.....can u ask them to list down the installation manual first before u send in for installation then :shocked:

joke aside,sorry i cant seem to heard of this workshop before....why not go to some reputable workshop like MBM or Auto Spritze for installation....play safe mah....least u know they are good in benz,right?

i didnt know you are the one who called :becky:

u mention something to me like EPC....if the workshop indeed got the EPC....they will be able to check the part numbers....which you mention something like A204 420 XXXX.

yes,no doubt u can get it by checking one by one.....but by ordering like this will cost more.....most benz parts got ori part numbers n it accessories part numbers too like....B6 6 03 XXXX

same go for the AMG styling kit too.

(example W212 AMG kit)

front bumper - 212 880 XXXX

front bumper grill - 212 885 XXXX

front bumper foglamp grill - 212 885 XXX

front bumper foglamp bracket - 212 885 XXX

and so on.....yes,u can get this fm EPC and order the parts one by one.

but for us,we dont....we order fm germany thur B6 6 03 XXXX part numbers....just one part number and it will come with complete set....and of cos more cheaper too.

that why i said....even i give you the B6 series part numbers,ur workshop will still not be able to know what is that fm the EPC :becky:

hope more or less u get a clear pics now :bounce:

[Guest Cerano]

Benzline Auto wrote:

bro

i not sure the difference for the BBK between brembo n AMG leh.

so far we only bring in AMG BBK n not brembo for benz.

since you mention that the workshop is not spec in benz.....can u ask them to list down the installation manual first before u send in for installation then :shocked:

joke aside,sorry i cant seem to heard of this workshop before....why not go to some reputable workshop like MBM or Auto Spritze for installation....play safe mah....least u know they are good in benz,right?

i didnt know you are the one who called :becky:

u mention something to me like EPC....if the workshop indeed got the EPC....they will be able to check the part numbers....which you mention something like A204 420 XXXX.

yes,no doubt u can get it by checking one by one.....but by ordering like this will cost more.....most benz parts got ori part numbers n it accessories part numbers too like....B6 6 03 XXXX

same go for the AMG styling kit too.

(example W212 AMG kit)

front bumper - 212 880 XXXX

front bumper grill - 212 885 XXXX

front bumper foglamp grill - 212 885 XXX

front bumper foglamp bracket - 212 885 XXX

and so on.....yes,u can get this fm EPC and order the parts one by one.

but for us,we dont....we order fm germany thur B6 6 03 XXXX part numbers....just one part number and it will come with complete set....and of cos more cheaper too.

that why i said....even i give you the B6 series part numbers,ur workshop will still not be able to know what is that fm the EPC :becky:

hope more or less u get a clear pics now :bounce:

no la i ask bout the EPC not related to the WS. but oic very complicated system la.

but anw i seriously considering your bbk. but how much is the additional bracket?

but yea la your price very good :thumbsup:

i dunno leh the WS i also never hear before but my friend recommend. he say cheap mah so i go ask around lo. then they tell me this and that so complicated simi part no. and all.

but you're right la. may as well go to autospritze or mbm and tadah problem solved :becky:

[Guest Benzline Auto]

guys

parts will send out by sea shipment today.

so i think most likely will arrive 3 weeks later.

let me know if u guys still keen ok.

for this package deal.....those members who are keen can purchase the W204 front bracket set at $200,outside retail price is at about $600.

the reason for this bracket deal is bcos some cust might not wanna modify anything on their brake kit,hence they prefer change the bracket instead.

since i already ordered the BBK,might as well i order the bracket set as well.....do let me know ya. :bounce:

[Guest JoshL]

Benzline Auto wrote:

guys

parts will send out by sea shipment today.

so i think most likely will arrive 3 weeks later.

let me know if u guys still keen ok.

for this package deal.....those members who are keen can purchase the W204 front bracket set at $200,outside retail price is at about $600.

the reason for this bracket deal is bcos some cust might not wanna modify anything on their brake kit,hence they prefer change the bracket instead.

since i already ordered the BBK,might as well i order the bracket set as well.....do let me know ya. :bounce:

Sorry ah, can I ask a noob question? The bracket is the 'covering' for the brake calipers ah, the one with 'AMG' painted on it.

Will it fit with 17" rims? My new rims are +50 offset. So not sure if it can be fitted still.

[Guest Benzline Auto]

JoshL wrote:

Sorry ah, can I ask a noob question? The bracket is the 'covering' for the brake calipers ah, the one with 'AMG' painted on it.

Will it fit with 17" rims? My new rims are +50 offset. So not sure if it can be fitted still.

no question is a noob question bro. :becky:

bro,i dont think ur can clear the AMG BBK with your 17" wheels leh,so far we have not done up any W204 on 17" wheels yet....but i highly doubt it can clear for the front 6pot calipers.

[Guest JoshL]

Benzline Auto wrote:

no question is a noob question bro. :becky:

bro,i dont think ur can clear the AMG BBK with your 17" wheels leh,so far we have not done up any W204 on 17" wheels yet....but i highly doubt it can clear for the front 6pot calipers.

I see, thanks bro!

[Guest blackknight]

thought this is a Grp buy? how come have not seen this taking off.....:hand:

[Guest Benzline Auto]

blackknight wrote:

thought this is a Grp buy? how come have not seen this taking off.....:hand:

bro

always not easy to do a grp buy in forum esp for this kinda of exp BBK.

most merchant in others forum do collect deposit first before they order the parts in.....but for us here and also for the benefit for all sgmerc members here,we dont do that.

should the grp buy fail to take off,is ok bro....no need worry....i can keep stock also....no problem.

p/s - will update you guys again once the shipment is in ok.

cheers

kenneth :becky:

[Guest ART]

may i know what size are the brake rotors?

[Guest Luci Ride]

Cerano brudder,

Believed you wanted to know what the diff between single piece brake rotor & floating rotor?

Following taken fm NAGTROC (North America GTR Owners Clue post)

The OE GT-R discs assemblies are floating both front and rear. This means that the iron rotor is not bolted tight up to the hat. It is slightly free to expand with heat and speed. Since aluminum and cast iron thermally expand at different rates, decoupling the hat from the rotor ring keeps the assembly from distorting like a single piece rotor might. Truth be told, floating rear discs on the GT-R are a bit overkill as they don't see the temperatures that would require it. And, the rear hats are made from iron due to the internal parking brake drum. But they do cost more, so why not? Keep in mind that the distortion issue is only prevalent at pretty high rotor temperatures, so no advantage is seen during normal or even somewhat aggressive street driving, just heavy track use.

You can tell the disc assemblies are floating by the use of bobbins between the rotor ring and the hat. Brembo also uses what are called "McLaren springs" to keep a load on the rotor ring, pressing it up against the hat. This reduces rattle quite a bit, although many GT-R owners have heard some rotor rattle when going over rough road or up driveways. It sounds a bit like someone bumped into a full dishwasher. 380x34mm rotors are pretty heavy, so the little springs can only do so much. Larger springs would keep them completely quiet, but would then start to interfere with the float -- not a good compromise.

Disc replacement comes down to wear (checking thickness) or cracking. On the street, wear will be deciding factor. For track use, the OE discs will usually crack before the wear limit is reached, especially for the high-carbon, drilled, lower-strength OE discs. The small initial cracks (called crazing) will first appear and are not troublesome. It's when you can catch your fingernail in the cracks that it is time to order up new ones.

There is no performance advantage to using floating versus fixed 2-piece discs as far as stopping distances go. There were introduced into racing several decades ago to put a stop to "coning" or the uneven distortion of 1-piece rotors. A side benefit is that they are usually lighter (if using aluminum hats) and often cool a bit better. The downside is that they cost more (at least initially) and they can suffer from clogging if debris builds up between the bobbins and the slots in the hat.

For most street driving, they are not even close to necessary. For very aggressive driving and track days, 2-piece rotors start showing their mettle. Over the long haul, the cost theory would indicate that 2-piece rotors have a lower replacement cost than 1-piece rotors as one only replaces the outer ring and hardware. However, your mileage may vary.

Fortunately, the AP Racing ring upgrades have been extending rotor life substantially for most customers. These are made from one of AP's highest grades of iron and have 72-vane cores, both of which contribute to their success (as well as their cost). Cheaper replacements made from lesser materials typically do not fare as well and for so long.

Pic of single piece

Pic of 2 piece NON Floating rotor

Pic of Full Floating rotor

Alternatively, anybody interested to buy my GTR Brambo's latest as shown above 6 pot front & 4 port rear coupled with Alcon Full Floating Rotor with 'C' Hook?

Just the rotor (bolt on to work with brambo calipers for the GTR) & coupled with Endless MX72 Brake Pads used for major competition & effective till 750-800 degs cel :becky: Pads practically new because i change it to another BBK

Oh dangers of using cross drilled brake rotors in that it'll crack easily (Happened to my 996 Porsche & GTR) & when it cracks, it look like this:-

However, my GTR brakes can be customized the brackets to bolt calipers onto your ride (And model) & rotors can work but need to leave car min approx 7 working days. Lastly, only rimes with 19" & above can fit & some 18" can but must see offset

[Guest Benzline Auto]

good news guys

the AMG brake kit for the W204 and W211 model have since arrived.

do call me or sms me before u come down for the collection.

so that i can prepare the items for you guys.

thank you for the support.

cheers

[Guest Benzline Auto]

Benzline Auto wrote:

guys

parts will send out by sea shipment today.

so i think most likely will arrive 3 weeks later.

let me know if u guys still keen ok.

for this package deal.....those members who are keen can purchase the W204 front bracket set at $200,outside retail price is at about $600.

the reason for this bracket deal is bcos some cust might not wanna modify anything on their brake kit,hence they prefer change the bracket instead.

since i already ordered the BBK,might as well i order the bracket set as well.....do let me know ya. :bounce:

hey guys

just some update.

i got a few enquiry from members here,that they only wanna purchase the front bracket set for the W204 model only without the AMG BBK :shocked:

abit weird,but like i mention the bracket set at this price are meant for this group buy only which is only 8 sets.

if just wanna buy the bracket set alone,we will charge you $600.

hope you guys understand it.

thanks.