w204 1.6 C180K FC

[Guest hkhamateur]

Bros, am on Ron95 fm Caltex Tetron always. Hve tried Shell bt same FC despite its brand. SPC give e worse FC rides so stopped since. Am pilotg a C180 1.8L Kompressor n both me wife obtained approx.10-10.4 avg on 58% highways, balance cities w 18" AMG staggered rims n CSC3. B4 upgraded to K&N filter same FC bt nw better response. Was pleased w e FC. :music:

My tricks:

1) Spare wheels removed

2) Engaged 'N' while on Traffic Red (why idle fr almost 30secs x multiple traffic Red w 'D'?)

3) always pumped to 3/4 mark. (When movg off, full tank will bring extras beside e kerb wght)

4) always maintained tires pressure during each fill-up. (4-5days)

5) frt 235kpa n rear 265kpa

6) Approx. 6000km changed engine oil n oil filter. IMPORTANT.

Overflate will loses grip as all re awared of. :whistle:

Hve tried once on S mode after readg forum thread claimg no much diff fm C mode, bt its wrong. Clocked 9.3-9.5!

Think tats abt it. Hope some bros hve extra input. :welcome:

[Guest jtang]

hkhamateur wrote:

Overflate will loses grip as all re awared of. :whistle:

True, overinflation may result in loss of grip, but that will require an excessive amt of pressure like 60-70 psi. Anyway for safety, pls check your tyres for max load.

It's no secret that by over inflating the tyres, you'll get better FC. In fact, I remembered my Economy Rally days, we deliberately over inflate by 20%. For my car park rallies, i also over inflate for max performance in fast & tight corners. So for the tyres to lose grip, it'll have to be at some insane pressure.

Staying at the max recommended pressure as shown in the table on the fuel cover is perfectly safe..

[Guest benson]

Just collected my ride last friday. CnC gv me half tank and i pump in half myself using shell 98. Waiting to refill 2nd time either tml or sat, avg 11km/l.

Initally was 14+km/l but no matter how i drive be it more on highway or be very light footed still cudnt prevent it frm kp decreasing.

Do notice for 1.6 the moving off is very sluggish. The 1st 3 gear will usually rev btwn 2500rpm to 3000rpm which result in more petrol gushed in to push the car, thereafter the car is smoother and can travel btwn 1500rpm to 2000rpm. For me i try to maintain the 1st 3 gear ard 2000rpm. Thot only 1.6 have such prob but realise when i sat in my fren 1.8CGI, move off also need to cross over 2000rpm, maybe he is heavy footer as his full tank is abt 600+

In my opinion, if want gd FC it will definitely kill the joy of driving. My current style of driving when move off can see so many car waiting to overtake me... :becky: ... If we like to drive extreme right lane or overtake other car user is rather difficult to maintain gd FC, currently i'm always on the left or middle lane, maybe wait til tired of slow driving will start ramping... :becky:

[Guest desmondtoo]

benson wrote:

Just collected my ride last friday. CnC gv me half tank and i pump in half myself using shell 98. Waiting to refill 2nd time either tml or sat, avg 11km/l.

Initally was 14+km/l but no matter how i drive be it more on highway or be very light footed still cudnt prevent it frm kp decreasing.

Do notice for 1.6 the moving off is very sluggish. The 1st 3 gear will usually rev btwn 2500rpm to 3000rpm which result in more petrol gushed in to push the car, thereafter the car is smoother and can travel btwn 1500rpm to 2000rpm. For me i try to maintain the 1st 3 gear ard 2000rpm. Thot only 1.6 have such prob but realise when i sat in my fren 1.8CGI, move off also need to cross over 2000rpm, maybe he is heavy footer as his full tank is abt 600+

In my opinion, if want gd FC it will definitely kill the joy of driving. My current style of driving when move off can see so many car waiting to overtake me... :becky: ... If we like to drive extreme right lane or overtake other car user is rather difficult to maintain gd FC, currently i'm always on the left or middle lane, maybe wait til tired of slow driving will start ramping... :becky:

Bro Benson, if you're going to challenge gd FC... this is your target...Achieved by Bro Chiaster(W204 1.8 CGI)

[Guest subaru67]

desmondtoo wrote:

Bro Benson, if you're going to challenge gd FC... this is your target...Achieved by Bro Chiaster(W204 1.8 CGI)

awesome fc:shocked:

[Guest io5885]

hkhamateur wrote:

6) Approx. 6000km changed engine oil n oil filter. IMPORTANT.

bro,

u use simi EO?

how u ah ga 3/4 tank petrol?

simi diff btw N n D when car stationary?

Kum sia many many.. :wave:

[Guest jtang]

desmondtoo wrote:

Bro Benson, if you're going to challenge gd FC... this is your target...Achieved by Bro Chiaster(W204 1.8 CGI)

Actually, this figure 7.6 lit/100km is by default the the lowest when the car engine is started when cold. The menu to select is trip ( from start) or from resetting the (from reset). It resets to this figure whenever the car has not been used for 6 or more hours. After moving off, this figure climbs to the realistic actual figure after a few mins lah.:becky:

[Guest io5885]

22.54hrs x 38km/h agar agar 870.2km.. :pop2:

[Guest rmjunior]

I am averaging about 8.5km/l on my C180K 1.6. I guess its due to the sluggish pickup due to the 1.6l engine , hence i got to step harder to move off. My personal experience, whether on RON 95 or 98 not much difference in terms of FC.

[Guest tsktsk]

yes its heavy but imho the local road peakhour condition is the main reason for the low FC. But if travel distance per trip is short then we will get poor FC too.

[Guest io5885]

tsktsk wrote:

yes its heavy but imho the local road peakhour condition is the main reason for the low FC. But if travel distance per trip is short then we will get poor FC too.

我同意 and so much for the ERPs!! white elephants zapping the people dry.. :frusty:

[Guest Old-driver]

jtang wrote:

True, overinflation may result in loss of grip, but that will require an excessive amt of pressure like 60-70 psi. Anyway for safety, pls check your tyres for max load.

It's no secret that by over inflating the tyres, you'll get better FC. In fact, I remembered my Economy Rally days, we deliberately over inflate by 20%. For my car park rallies, i also over inflate for max performance in fast & tight corners. So for the tyres to lose grip, it'll have to be at some insane pressure.

Staying at the max recommended pressure as shown in the table on the fuel cover is perfectly safe..

Apologies Bros... let be back-track this a bit. I am on stock rims and I thought the recommended PSI on the fuel cap is optimum? Or is is optimum for comfort and not FC. So by over-inflating can yield better FC?

[Guest PALMER19]

Actually, I did not check or pump my tires until I went for tyre rotation a few weeks back when I hit about 7500km. That's almost 6 months ! (on nitrogen, so I thought leakage would be low). The tyre pressure then was about 210 according to the mechanic. Pumped it back to 240. Observed no difference in FC before and after, still about 11pm/L.

I guess once you run in the car, the car will "learn" your driving style and optimize accordingly, or vice versa.

Importantly, must enjoy driving the car.

[Guest hkhamateur]

jtang wrote:

True, overinflation may result in loss of grip, but that will require an excessive amt of pressure like 60-70 psi. Anyway for safety, pls check your tyres for max load.

It's no secret that by over inflating the tyres, you'll get better FC. In fact, I remembered my Economy Rally days, we deliberately over inflate by 20%. For my car park rallies, i also over inflate for max performance in fast & tight corners. So for the tyres to lose grip, it'll have to be at some insane pressure.

Staying at the max recommended pressure as shown in the table on the fuel cover is perfectly safe..

Bro, true. But nt many will know abt the excessive amt of pressure range fm 60-70psi as stated, bcoz mainly all are family orientated and safe drivers. Yes, better to check the tires chart printed at the fuel cap for references. I suggest to pump between the optimum and the max pressure to be safe. :hand:

In view of your economy rally days, sgmerc bros will be glad to have your rich input and past experiences share in more threads to cme. Bt bro, as per rally/ racing and time attack race perspective, these will to be consider as different level compared with our daily driving. We dun go ard with over inflate tires of four and with families just to achieved gd FC? Factor'g tat nt all are on grippy tires ie: supreme wet/dry, semi slick etc... and with rain pour'g like cats and dogs these days, aqua-planning will nt be prevented. :tsk: So I believe bros here will no recommend it. In reverse, my economy PG weekend, we deflate a mild 5% on top of the optimum pressure as we know tat when tires heated up, its expand! Our objective re to try for best right timing on each SAFE lap. I have seen many major accident on track with the wrong tires sett'g approach. :Cry:

[Guest hkhamateur]

io5885 wrote:

bro,

u use simi EO?

how u ah ga 3/4 tank petrol?

simi diff btw N n D when car stationary?

Kum sia many many.. :wave:

Bro, amateur here la.

1) Previously with See&See servic'g till 30,000km on Shell Ultra S-Helix always. Cleaned air filter at 10,000km & 30,000km. Changed NEW stock filter @ 20,000km.

2) When cluster indicated 'Low fuel', pumped 45L std regardless of the rate. Always show 3/4 mark approx. Must first appeared then i die die will go station.

3) When on gear selector at N, gear nt engaged like manual car. Bt every sec wait will burn fuel still despite the ecu smart ctrl at optimum. Ideal factory default settg. So why is there such a quote 'If wait re expected, off engine to saved gas' correct? And if on gear selector at D, there is a gear engaged. This engagement re named 'The creeping Phenomenon'. When foot brake released, its moved correct and when idling with gear selector at N, car nt shivering bt with D, its creeping! Fuel re burned still. Generally it work like our AC fans, when off its saved! Btw, saving nt huge if calculation was to be base on per traffic wait'g, but it'll reflect on your bills on lump sum basis. :becky:

Bro, just serviced with SB on Assist B (45,000km). I'm with liqui Moly and K&N filter and new spark plugs now. Darkav recommended fr an engine flush and engine protector with Liqui Moly fr max cleanliness and afresh with new EO. Engine was smooth and quick than before. My wife noticed it first. I'll monitor along and my first impression now was good alr. :peace:

[Guest io5885]

hkhamateur wrote:

Bro, just serviced with SB on Assist B (45,000km). I'm with liqui Moly and K&N filter and new spark plugs now. Darkav recommended fr an engine flush and engine protector with Liqui Moly fr max cleanliness and afresh with new EO. Engine was smooth and quick than before. My wife noticed it first. I'll monitor along and my first impression now was good alr. :peace:

bro,

many kum sia for ur juicy n detailed FR.

Ur wifey ex-mechanic ah? butt feel so strong.. :censored:

no chain ur ATF at 45k interval??

RTS wif Moly: ??

Tell us more abt ur fling with Missy Moly... see whether with each passing day, got spark off to a more lomanti r/s anot... :bounce::bounce::bounce:

[Guest hkhamateur]

io5885 wrote:

bro,

many kum sia for ur juicy n detailed FR.

Ur wifey ex-mechanic ah? butt feel so strong.. :censored:

no chain ur ATF at 45k interval??

RTS wif Moly: ??

Tell us more abt ur fling with Missy Moly... see whether with each passing day, got spark off to a more lomanti r/s anot... :bounce::bounce::bounce:

Dun mention bro, here we shared right! :bounce:

Ya lor...desperate when the 'low fuel' indicated somewhere out driving, drove in SPC to hve it drink ron95 since its the nearest alr. The next two days, my wife asked wat hve I done w our ride as she can feel engine sound louder than usual!! Told her abt diff petrol and kana scoldg lor. Then during a invitation by wheels magazine to Autosavers workshop for some presentation, gotta myself lucky for a grand early-bird door gift. SGP made engine oil 'REV-1' Performance 4L. itchy backside and miser to spend on next comg 'assist B' servicg, so changed EO lor. Few days later, she asked again and I confessed. Guessed again...kena scoldg again lor...:hail: Was curious so quest her back why she's so sensitive and her reply 'Ya la...my car ma....:fish:

Darkav and Ah Tan suggested nt to change yet bt will check condition during this service. Toppg ATF at this condition will be the ideal as recommended. Bt next service at 60,000km will nt be spare. I ll be broke then. :Cry:

A week past and the engine idling at stationary and moderate rolling, travelling was good and quieter than C&C Shell. Guessed wat, met two Audi A4 1.8T on two occasions (Punggol & TPE). Was impressed with our C-class torque as they re unable to past fm side by side (Flr accele & A/C off). :whistle:

[Guest subaru67]

hkhamateur wrote:

Dun mention bro, here we shared right! :bounce:

Ya lor...desperate when the 'low fuel' indicated somewhere out driving, drove in SPC to hve it drink ron95 since its the nearest alr. The next two days, my wife asked wat hve I done w our ride as she can feel engine sound louder than usual!! Told her abt diff petrol and kana scoldg lor. Then during a invitation by wheels magazine to Autosavers workshop for some presentation, gotta myself lucky for a grand early-bird door gift. SGP made engine oil 'REV-1' Performance 4L. itchy backside and miser to spend on next comg 'assist B' servicg, so changed EO lor. Few days later, she asked again and I confessed. Guessed again...kena scoldg again lor...:hail: Was curious so quest her back why she's so sensitive and her reply 'Ya la...my car ma....:fish:

Darkav and Ah Tan suggested nt to change yet bt will check condition during this service. Toppg ATF at this condition will be the ideal as recommended. Bt next service at 60,000km will nt be spare. I ll be broke then. :Cry:

A week past and the engine idling at stationary and moderate rolling, travelling was good and quieter than C&C Shell. Guessed wat, met two Audi A4 1.8T on two occasions (Punggol & TPE). Was impressed with our C-class torque as they re unable to past fm side by side (Flr accele & A/C off). :whistle:

i salute yr CO:becky:

[Guest io5885]

hkhamateur wrote:

Guessed wat, met two Audi A4 1.8T on two occasions (Punggol & TPE). Was impressed with our C-class torque as they re unable to past fm side by side (Flr accele & A/C off). :whistle:

Racer boy paired with engineer wifey, power sia!!

io5885 salutes u too!! :becky:

[Guest xtrocious]

desmondtoo wrote:

Bro Benson, if you're going to challenge gd FC... this is your target...Achieved by Bro Chiaster(W204 1.8 CGI)

Unbelievable...hahah

My C200K only gets me 10.8L/100km so far since my last servicing reset in June

Manual calculation - the best I had was 9.2L/100km

[Guest Yap ST]

Bro,

Am driving C200 CDI and having range from 8.7l/100km to 9.5l/100km.

Have not gone for any servicing . Mileage now is about 6500km

:becky:

xtrocious wrote:

Unbelievable...hahah

My C200K only gets me 10.8L/100km so far since my last servicing reset in June

Manual calculation - the best I had was 9.2L/100km

[Guest fchung]

Hi all,

Just refilled and am pleased to note that my FC has improved to 9.2km/litre after 3rd tank. :bounce:

Hopefully, over time and mileage increase, the FC will get better.

[Guest io5885]

Everything sits in properly liao and

ur "kar" more seasoned to ur ride, know how much to depress n when to let go accelerator ...

Congrats on ur achievement. :thumb:

[Guest fchung]

io5885 wrote:

Everything sits in properly liao and

ur "kar" more seasoned to ur ride, know how much to depress n when to let go accelerator ...

Congrats on ur achievement. :thumb:

Thanks bro.

[Guest mile]

fchung wrote:

Hi all,

Just refilled and am pleased to note that my FC has improved to 9.2km/litre after 3rd tank. :bounce:

Hopefully, over time and mileage increase, the FC will get better.

It'll probably stay this way for sometime until you change tyres, or something else.