C180 Tunning

[Guest Dragonboy]

The stock C180 1.6L is 156bHP, anyone knows if the car can be re-mapped or tunned to give higher numbers?

I understand remapping is available for higher end Merc (engines) but not sure about this model?

Thanks.

[Guest Tud Tud]

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[Guest blackmercs]

Dragonboy wrote:

The stock C180 1.6L is 156bHP, anyone knows if the car can be re-mapped or tunned to give higher numbers?

I understand remapping is available for higher end Merc (engines) but not sure about this model?

Thanks.

Is not worth it, go & get a sprint booster.

[Guest hkhamateur]

blackmercs wrote:

Is not worth it, go & get a sprint booster.

Bro blackmercs,can u quote yr saying pls? I hve intention as i ve done on my previous few rides and its alright. Appreciated. Tx bro.

[Guest rssid]

Ive got the sprint booster as well on the W204 fantasic piece of kit. Keep in mind that it doesn not increase HP at all just fools the throttle into thinking you're stepping more on the throttle and your brain into thinking your stepping less on the throttle. Hahhahaha works both ways anyway other throttle controllers will do as well. Go pickup a K&N airfilter as well help the engine brethe a bit easier

[Guest blackmercs]

hkhamateur wrote:

Bro blackmercs,can u quote yr saying pls? I hve intention as i ve done on my previous few rides and its alright. Appreciated. Tx bro.

most of my ride I didn't bother to increase the hp coz I hardly hit the max. Hence is better to invest on sprint booster to obtain the cheap gain . The draw back of the spring booster is that yr F/C will spring along too.

Anyway is depend on individual, if u love the 10-20hp gain which cost around $1500 or less than go for it.

[Guest Gan]

Understand This Can Be PROGRAMMED via M/Benz STAR

overwrite ... enrichment ...the FUEL inject Quantity ....

for the SPRING BOOSTER , basically it was an object to CHEAT the THROTTLE VALVE position ....

exmp .... the accelerator position sending a actual valve by 20% acceleration

the actual throttle valve should operated at 20% of opening position

via the SPRING BOOSTER ...

the acceleration of 20% ...... the throttle valve will open at 25% or 30% ... etc

hope this helps ,

[Guest rssid]

Gan i belive its a SPRINT BOOSTER not Spring Booster

[Guest blackmercs]

rssid wrote:

Gan i belive its a SPRINT BOOSTER not Spring Booster

Haha I m guilty too, fat finger.

[Guest hkhamateur]

Tx bros rssid, blackmercs n gan.

[Guest Dragonboy]

Tud Tud wrote:

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any particular one?

[Guest Tud Tud]

Dragonboy wrote:

any particular one?

To increase power on a car, 1st step is to let the car breath in and out better.

change air intake and exhaust.

Further increase air intake with bigger supercharger else (expensive & impossible to find) or make your current supercharger work harder by letting it spin faster with a smaller pulley (cheaper way). cheaper way may shorten the lifespan of a supercharger.

compressed air heats up, so may need a bigger intercooler. not sure if c180be comes with 1 in the 1st place.

then when more air goes in, the AF sensor will auto adjust fuel injection to accommodate, which will naturally give more power. note that there's limitation to how muck fuel a stock injector can deliver, so if too much air, injectors may have to be upgraded. when injectors are upgraded, fuel pump has to be upgraded too. when all these hardwares are done, software has to be upgraded also.

amount of ponies churning out will depend on the hardware and software + the tuner liao...

1 yr down the road, you may want more power. then it will come to internal engine block, where piston and cam have to be upgraded. tuning has to be done again.

the list is just never ending and the risk of getting caught by TP is high also.

everytime drive pass TP balls will shrink... happened to me when i turbocharged my 1.6L NA jap car years ago. engine can't last for 1 yr.

btw, someone is selling Kleemann pulley/k-box/ belt/fuel regulator kit in the private ad folder for M271 engine.

[Guest Tud Tud]

not to forget, you will need bigger brakes also. strong brake hose.

brakes too big, wheels have to be bigger also....

then u need car to be stable also, have to lower down with stronger dampers.

happy modding...

i had my fun on my 1st 2 cars. taking it easy for now...

[Guest blackmercs]

Tud Tud wrote:

not to forget, you will need bigger brakes also. strong brake hose.

brakes too big, wheels have to be bigger also....

then u need car to be stable also, have to lower down with stronger dampers.

happy modding...

i had my fun on my 1st 2 cars. taking it easy for now...

Hahaha alot flash back???

[Guest hkhamateur]

Bro tud tud, gd memories. Krkrkr. I ve mine as well when i didn't check my rear view mirror while stopping at the traffic light. Next, i blow right infrt of him in my previous ride STI. He (TP) wanna bring me back fr inspection but i ve no fear as my ride was stock. After reasoning w him, gotta fine fr windows film n number plate still. Wat a loser! Was lucky tat i fly up to 60 when tat stretch spd limit was at 70. My friends calls me ah heng! Krkrkr!

btw, any bros here has idea the use of 3-drive pivot fr w204? Mcwell says thsy re bringing. Adv,tx.

[Guest kepiting1sg]

Tud Tud wrote:

To increase power on a car, 1st step is to let the car breath in and out better.

change air intake and exhaust.

Further increase air intake with bigger supercharger else (expensive & impossible to find) or make your current supercharger work harder by letting it spin faster with a smaller pulley (cheaper way). cheaper way may shorten the lifespan of a supercharger.

compressed air heats up, so may need a bigger intercooler. not sure if c180be comes with 1 in the 1st place.

then when more air goes in, the AF sensor will auto adjust fuel injection to accommodate, which will naturally give more power. note that there's limitation to how muck fuel a stock injector can deliver, so if too much air, injectors may have to be upgraded. when injectors are upgraded, fuel pump has to be upgraded too. when all these hardwares are done, software has to be upgraded also.

amount of ponies churning out will depend on the hardware and software + the tuner liao...

1 yr down the road, you may want more power. then it will come to internal engine block, where piston and cam have to be upgraded. tuning has to be done again.

the list is just never ending and the risk of getting caught by TP is high also.

everytime drive pass TP balls will shrink... happened to me when i turbocharged my 1.6L NA jap car years ago. engine can't last for 1 yr.

btw, someone is selling Kleemann pulley/k-box/ belt/fuel regulator kit in the private ad folder for M271 engine.

The older W203 with the M271 engine came with 3 tunes from the same 1.8L engine. They were C180 (143hp), C200(163hp) & C230(192hp)

At first it was thought that the C230 has a bigger SC than the siblings but it was actually a smaller pulley thus spin faster to give more boost!

The Kleeman K-Box & Pulley Kit came with K&N Filter and a bigger fuel pump for the C200.

With all that extra boost, Kleemann added in Headers and a metallic Cat Con to clear up the exos fast with the higher boost.

Vaeth use to make an intercooler for these rides and I believe they still do!

Oil cooler & fuel cooler too!

http://www.vaeth.com/en/engine-refinement/mercedes/engines/m271.html

C180CGI(156ps to 180ps)

http://www.vaeth.com/en/vehicle-refinement/modeloverview/c-class/c-class-w204/benzine/c-180-cgi.html

C180K (156ps to 188ps)

http://www.vaeth.com/en/vehicle-refinement/modeloverview/c-class/c-class-w204/benzine/c-180-kompressor.html

Here's the Vaeth poison list of 14 pages for W204!

http://www.vaeth.com/fileadmin/user_upload/PDF/Lieferprogramm_2011_en/C-Class_W204_2011_engl_L.pdf

Our site sponsor MBM had previously bought in the vaeth Intercooler for W203 & W204.

[Guest Tud Tud]

kepiting1sg wrote:

The older W203 with the M271 engine came with 3 tunes from the same 1.8L engine. They were C180 (143hp), C200(163hp) & C230(192hp)

At first it was thought that the C230 has a bigger SC than the siblings but it was actually a smaller pulley thus spin faster to give more boost!

The Kleeman K-Box & Pulley Kit came with K&N Filter and a bigger fuel pump for the C200.

With all that extra boost, Kleemann added in Headers and a metallic Cat Con to clear up the exos fast with the higher boost.

Vaeth use to make an intercooler for these rides and I believe they still do!

Oil cooler & fuel cooler too!

http://www.vaeth.com/en/engine-refinement/mercedes/engines/m271.html

C180CGI(156ps to 180ps)

http://www.vaeth.com/en/vehicle-refinement/modeloverview/c-class/c-class-w204/benzine/c-180-cgi.html

C180K (156ps to 188ps)

http://www.vaeth.com/en/vehicle-refinement/modeloverview/c-class/c-class-w204/benzine/c-180-kompressor.html

Here's the Vaeth poison list of 14 pages for W204!

http://www.vaeth.com/fileadmin/user_upload/PDF/Lieferprogramm_2011_en/C-Class_W204_2011_engl_L.pdf

Our site sponsor MBM had previously bought in the vaeth Intercooler for W203 & W204.

it's the same basic theory for increasing pony powers. we are adding poison to all members.. lox

[Guest Tud Tud]

hkhamateur wrote:

Bro tud tud, gd memories. Krkrkr. I ve mine as well when i didn't check my rear view mirror while stopping at the traffic light. Next, i blow right infrt of him in my previous ride STI. He (TP) wanna bring me back fr inspection but i ve no fear as my ride was stock. After reasoning w him, gotta fine fr windows film n number plate still. Wat a loser! Was lucky tat i fly up to 60 when tat stretch spd limit was at 70. My friends calls me ah heng! Krkrkr!

btw, any bros here has idea the use of 3-drive pivot fr w204? Mcwell says thsy re bringing. Adv,tx.

if 3-drive pivot can be installed, that means Apexi Neo can go in also?