C180k (1.6 ltr) or C200 CGI

[Guest woofie]

hi guys,

Torn between this 2 models, any feedback on the C180K 1.6 Ltr?

any good advise?

[Guest blackknight]

I will take the c200' nothing beats displacement

[Guest ACSLK]

C200.........

cheers

[Guest PALMER19]

This a $40k question. C200 CGI most definitely if money is not an issue.

You can find out from this forum if the extras you get is worth the 40 grand or not.

[Guest vincemerz]

C180 cgi. If not e250cgi.

[Guest poolfan]

PALMER19 wrote:

This a $40k question. C200 CGI most definitely if money is not an issue.

You can find out from this forum if the extras you get is worth the 40 grand or not.

Agree with the comment ..... mine was a $27k question when I bot the

C180K. If $$$$ not a issue, the choice is obvious.

Main diffferences between the two :

i) Engine - Turbo (Newer) vs Supercharged ii) Output - 184 BHP vs 156 BHP iii)Full Automatic Seats vs semi automatic seats iv) W/WO Parktronic v) Exhaust tip.

Also note that it is unlikely to be able to recover the difference when the car is sold in the future. Unlikely to be able to get a $40k difference between the C200 CGI and C180K when selling them off in the future.

[Guest jtang]

poolfan wrote:

Also note that it is unlikely to be able to recover the difference when the car is sold in the future. Unlikely to be able to get a $40k difference between the C200 CGI and C180K when selling them off in the future.

Meaning what? The C180K depreciates more than C200CGI or the other way?

[Guest PALMER19]

It was the same for me when I got the C180k back in Nov. The major diff is the engine, I guess. The rest, I figured I could live with (btw they gave me reverse sensor and cam, and the chrome exhaust tip as complimentary).

If they still had the C180 CGI then and if it was 10k more, I would hv gone for it.

Anyway, I'm enjoying my ride now. Mercy mercy me.

[Guest Pumper]

vincemerz wrote:

C180 cgi. If not e250cgi.

Agreed! The C180 CGI seems like the best deal. Unfortunately C&C not selling them anymore. Maybe they will bring in again when they launch the new FL C-class :becky:

[Guest PALMER19]

Anyone know what's the latest packages offered for these 2 models by C&C ?

[Guest woofie]

C180k at $166 888 and C200CGI at $203888.

c180- 4k OT & 3k SC

c200 - 10k OT & 4k SC.

that's what i roughly gotten from the SE...

they may have more promo now...

[Guest PALMER19]

woofie wrote:

C180k at $166 888 and C200CGI at $203888.

c180- 4k OT & 3k SC

c200 - 10k OT & 4k SC.

that's what i roughly gotten from the SE...

they may have more promo now...

It's a $30k difference. If u can squeeze them and bring the price gap down to about $20k, it's worthwhile considering the C200. They should give pretty good trade-in.

Then again, don't know if the new FL version will include a 1.6L variant. If not then the base model will be at least $190k considering the current COE level. A bit steep.

[Guest Anlok]

I just book C180. OT $4000 ( but I negotiate to $8K :bounce: ), Service credit $3K. If you opt for int rate 2.68%, finance will give cash back 8% of your loan taken.

[Guest woofie]

Anlok wrote:

I just book C180. OT $4000 ( but I negotiate to $8K :bounce: ), Service credit $3K. If you opt for int rate 2.68%, finance will give cash back 8% of your loan taken.

ahhh ... do they give any accessories?

you have a pm

[Guest blackmercs]

Anlok wrote:

I just book C180. OT $4000 ( but I negotiate to $8K :bounce: ), Service credit $3K. If you opt for int rate 2.68%, finance will give cash back 8% of your loan taken.

Good nego but 2.68 % recommenation is a no go. Do yr sum before u go for it, there will be a crawl back.

[Guest PALMER19]

Anlok wrote:

I just book C180. OT $4000 ( but I negotiate to $8K :bounce: ), Service credit $3K. If you opt for int rate 2.68%, finance will give cash back 8% of your loan taken.

Congrats. Good nego skills. When r u collecting your ride n color ?

I agree that the 2.68% is a gimmick, like the free upgrade promo, but it'll tie u down. They still make money from this scheme at the end of the day.

[Guest Anlok]

You can still opt for the 1.66% rate with no cash back. The cash back is only helpful if you need to top up for your current ride or put a big down on the new car. With the $4K I squeeze from her, her face already turn green so she can't throw in any accessories. I got a Red & delivery is on Mar/Apr.

[Guest blackmercs]

Anlok wrote:

You can still opt for the 1.66% rate with no cash back. The cash back is only helpful if you need to top up for your current ride or put a big down on the new car. With the $4K I squeeze from her, her face already turn green so she can't throw in any accessories. I got a Red & delivery is on Mar/Apr.

Now the bank interest rate is 1.66%?

[Guest teoh]

SE smsed me on 14 feb:

C180K promotion:

List px: $166,888

Less discount: $7888 (Net: 159K)

Additional discount : $5000 if opt for non-guarantee COE (Net 154K)

plus: $4000 overtrade

plus: $3000 servic credit

[Guest poolfan]

Just to share..

OMV COE Cost Profit

C180K 31,797 38,889 111,653 Selling at 159k - 47,347

C200CGI 46,391 69,999 175,097 Selling at 190k - 14,903

+ Figures taken off LTA website - Jan 2011

Which is a better deal ? Based on the figures above, it is a 30k question - C180K or C200CGI ? C&C is using the higher profit/volume of the sale from C180K to subsidies the lower margin of the C200 CGI. It is obvious that the C200 CGI is a better deal for those that are prepared to pay the extra for the C200 CGI.

[Guest Anlok]

teoh wrote:

SE smsed me on 14 feb:

C180K promotion:

List px: $166,888

Less discount: $7888 (Net: 159K)

Additional discount : $5000 if opt for non-guarantee COE (Net 154K)

plus: $4000 overtrade

plus: $3000 servic credit

I only got a 1 time off discount of $4888. But OT I got total $8K. So imagine how much room the SE has to play with prices! You don't tiao ki lai boi, they take you as a "carrot"!

[Guest PALMER19]

teoh wrote:

SE smsed me on 14 feb:

C180K promotion:

List px: $166,888

Less discount: $7888 (Net: 159K)

Additional discount : $5000 if opt for non-guarantee COE (Net 154K)

plus: $4000 overtrade

plus: $3000 servic credit

Good price, what are u waiting for ?

[Guest PALMER19]

Anlok wrote:

I only got a 1 time off discount of $4888. But OT I got total $8K. So imagine how much room the SE has to play with prices! You don't tiao ki lai boi, they take you as a "carrot"!

You really got a pretty good deal. They let u convert 50% of the service credits to discount off car price ?

[Guest blackmercs]

PALMER19 wrote:

You really got a pretty good deal. They let u convert 50% of the service credits to discount off car price ?

Why not? I got 100% conversion to cash.

[Guest poolfan]

Anlok wrote:

I only got a 1 time off discount of $4888. But OT I got total $8K. So imagine how much room the SE has to play with prices! You don't tiao ki lai boi, they take you as a "carrot"!

I agree, have to try to act cool and like not so interested to get the car.

The cost/profit are transparent and we know how much profit C&C is making. The SEs are given guidelines, can push them to get better offer. One of my friends converted everything to cash discount - SC, OT, Accessories (Solar Firm) etc and just get a nett price. And he got a very good deal at the end.